Bob Stevenson (
rstevenson) says:
1. Brilliant entry!
Written by djnichols485, on 23-02-2005 13:57
Brings back some similar warm memories. Thanks!
I think it was one of your postings to websnark that brought me to JIH in the first place - I suppose I picture Mr. Burns as somewhere in between First Mate and a "Jim Hawkinsesque" cabin boy.
2. Written by admin, on 23-02-2005 15:08
In my rush to tell a story, I'm not sure I wrote much in the way of review. Websnark.com is simply the best webcomics commentary on the internet, well-written and well-reasoned.
There is a slight learning curve for Eric's quirky comic lingo that serves to draw the reader in deeper. I think he's got a glossary to help you sort out terms like "first and ten."
The comments are always worth a gander and from the ones who pop their heads up from time to time I'm thinking a goodly percentage of webcomic creators are lurking about the place.
In contrast to my policy to review anything submitted, there's something wonderful about Eric's policy to only snark what he deems worthy of those tasty little biscuits.
If there's a problem, it's that there are no comics, but Eric's about to fix that. He's working on a buffer for his own strip as I write and it's sure to be a worthwhile read.
There. That should serve as a bit more of a proper review. Go now, and read.
-Bob Stevenson
3. Written by Guest, on 24-02-2005 20:33
OOOH. There be two snarkers now! Wednesday White has joined the fray. I'm not sure how I feel about this one.
-Bob Stevenson
4. Written by Guest, on 25-02-2005 00:31
Weds isn't a regular rotation snarker. But if she ever feels like snarking, she has the keys. It's still pretty much my show.
--Eric
5. Written by Guest, on 25-02-2005 21:45
I've got no problem with Weds. I love her attitude and writing style. It just, CH-CH-CH-CH-CHANGE.
Oh and one more note on the ancient computer game front. My wife asked me yesterday if I knew where the word bedlam came from and I did because in the early eighties there was an excellent text adventure called Bedlam. You woke up in a cell eveytime they caught you and got to wander around an insane asylum talking to the inmates. I loved dealing with Napolean. -Never did find a way out though. Has anyone else played it? -solve it?
-Bob Stevenson
6. Written by Guest, on 27-02-2005 01:51
I'm not web-smart enough to get Websnark.
I also wish I could get past the Art and enjoy Queen of Wands, just like everybody else.
What's wrong with me?
7. Written by Guest, on 27-02-2005 02:34
For the most part, I'm of the opinion that there is a gulf between good comic art and good comic writing. The two have met on ocassion, but not often enough.
I too have had trouble getting past the art on Queen of Wands and several other strips on the Websnark trawl, but I have more trouble with the art on Penny Arcade and PVP 'cause there's little backing the art up and the art's, er, suspect. Both seem to rely, heavily on templates. Sure they're pretty templates, but they rely on so few it seems criminal. So with ten predictable poses and the lack of much that approaches good story-telling, there's little reason to come back. It's actually one of the reasons I do HB in pencil. There's nowhere for the art to hide and I like that. The increased contrast means you even get to see any lines I've erased. I wish there were more creators willing to enter into collaborations. My own with Shaenon Garrity on More Fun has been uneven. I don't feel like my art lived up to her scripts during the early weeks and lately, I've found myself wanting to spend more time working on my own projects. I think writer Harvey Pekar seems to have found a good solution. Use a dozen different artists. On the web, T. Campbell's done some of the same with Fans, but the web could use more in the way of collaboration.
As for getting Websnark, there are days I get it and love it and days I say "Huh?" and move on. Its strength is that it's there and consistently well-written be it over or under my head.
Hmm. I need to get back to drawing the next episode of More Fun, but I think I'll procrastinate a bit more and take a quick dive into the Queen of Wands archive. Maybe this time, it'll grow on me.
8. Written by Guest, on 27-02-2005 02:57
(Twenty minutes later) I made it through the 2002 stuff. The art is indeed an issue with Queen of Wands. I think I'd rather see templates. The cell shading in 2003 does a little something to hide the problems but it's still not all that interesting to look at. The blurry backgrounds don't help much either.
The writing, well, that's it's strength. It seemes solid from about week three. Though there's less story in the early months than I hoped for, it still beats out lots of the gag-a-day variety.
-Bob Stevenson
9. Written by Guest, on 27-02-2005 18:01
Sure. I go and harp on PvP template art, dismissing its story completely and a few hours later Eric, the Websnark guy, goes and explains about how there is indeed a great bit of beautiful subtlety in the story. Worse, he did it twice in the span of a couple of hours. I'm still no fan of the heavy use of templates but I guess the story is why PVP's still on my RSS reader.
Well met.
The Websnark posts:
[Websnark PvP post Number One]
[Websnark PvP post Number 2]
And there you have it. Proof positive of why reading websnark is probably better for you than reading this here little strip and blog thingie.
-Bob Stevenson
10. Written by Guest, on 27-02-2005 20:49
To be fair, both PvP articles remind me far too much of the over-analysis from my Film School days. "The negative scratches reflect the childhood scars. It's really deep, I tell you." Luis Recoder, where ever you are, may you choke on all that money you've made. Both PVP comics are deeper outside of context. That's like cheating. My 6th grade story about a dog coming back from the grave is deeper if you relate it to the loss of my pet in real life. If you just have to read the story, you'd just say that it sucks.
That said:
I actually like PVP and I, being tech-stupid, I find templates shiny and pleasing like my precious. But to each their own. So many people I respect and enjoy reading speak of Queen of Wands in holy tones...they see the story and I get hit with the art. Btw, I too spent an hour or so reading the first 50-100 comics in QoW and found it pretty cute by the end. (I will take the time to read the rest one day.)
It's interesting who finds a story and who can't get past Art that doesn't click. I think there's something wrong with both people. If the Art is great but trite in subject, or the story is good but the Art stings, then there's a problem. Who's problem? I've no idea.
I typically blame myself, it's less offensive that way.
As for Websnark's writing voice. I took a deeper look and found some of it inciteful and interesting, but you're right...some days the guy just speaks in tongues. But he's not writing that article for me and I know that. I'm not the webcomic gourmet who gets it, and there's no crime in that. I take it as my loss.
:runs away from PVP, Websnark, QoW fans as well as that one Luis Recoder fan:
-Jared
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