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Corey Klemow (cklemow) says:
How about love songs that are sweet and melancholy and kind of sad that start out like they're going to be science love songs and then stop being science love songs after the first verse but are still sweet and melancholy and kind of sad? If that sounds pretty okay, then you may enjoy this song by Jill Sobule:
Leon Arnott (l) says:
Monday's Comic: I wonder - when this storyline was being initially plotted, some three-quarters of a decade ago, at what point was the orbiting death laser going to kill Dave? Was it always going to be Dr. Narbon who pressed the button, or might that responsibility have fallen to these gerbils at one point? Both storylines seem to give the orbiting laser equal prominence. Hey, you didn't mention who Dana is named after. (If it is revealed that Dana is named after "DNA", I will have no choice but to wince.) I would like to again comment on your accurate depictions of Earth's surface. This story takes place 100 years after the Victorian arc, providing ample time for the Atlantic rift to have split the supercontinent Pangaea into two land masses, as can be seen in the world map in panel 3.
Matthew Miller (mattdm) says:
I just assumed the floor in the lab isn't level.
Dave III (dave_iii) says:
Well, form Artie's perspective, humans are pretty freakin' nuts. Look who he has as examples, here. Dave is probably the most stable of the bunch, for good or ill.
William Tracy (afishionado) says:
I'll grant thee random access to my heart,
Cameron Nielsen (cameroncn) says:
Hmm...that song sounds familiar. Ah. Yes. They stole that line from Kipling...
Rachel S. (masamage) says:
(Re: Cameron) Did they really? That's great.
Leon Arnott (l) says:
Tuesday's Comic: Backgrounds? I have no idea what you're talking about. "Contenance": is it a word? Expert computer programs say: no! Current named gerbils (deceased in italics): Artie, Dana, Mike, Jaye, Ethan, Dale, Lise, Allison, Kate, Marc, Ben. (84.6% completion)
Leon Arnott (l) says:
"Ant A: Protect the Queen! Ant B: Which one's the Queen? Ant C: I'm the Queen! Ant A: No, you're not." --The Simpsons
Ed Gedeon (eddurd) says:
Of course "contenance" is a word! I saw a guy staring at an anthill, I asked him what he was doing, and he said, "I'm contenance to see how many there are!" (The ants go marching one by one, hurrah! Hurrah!)
David Harmon (mental_mouse) says:
OK, I'll cover Sarge's straight line: " Of course, even vets have some difficulty sexing gerbils and the like. Pet store owners are worse: "Yes, yes, they're both male"... so my sibs and I wound up raising several generations of hamsters! I presume that Helen's manipulations disrupted her gerbils' olfactory processing... thus sacrificing the confidence of instinct for the chattering confusion of intelligence....
David Harmon (mental_mouse) says:
PS: <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Acountenance&btnG=Search"> countenance</a>. Artie seems to have a bit of trouble with misspelled word balloons -- perhaps the dictionary he ate didn't agree with him?
Pam Rowe (spinkitty) says:
From dictionary.com: contenance: an outward appearance. countenance: to approve, support, or encourage.
David Cunnius (capnq) says:
That is quite odd, because Google insists that "contenance" is a French word, and that there are no English definitions of it on the Web.
Angela Fortin (aren3) says:
My French-English dictionary defines "contenance" as "capacity; bearing, attitude; countenance. So if Artie's slipping into French for some obscure reason, he's close, but not spot-on. Although, all things considered, I wouldn't put it past Artie to secretly speak a couple of extra languages by the end of Narbonic's run.
Kellie H (kellie) says:
This editor says "countenance." Merriam Webster's Collegiate, the dictionary that the most publishers depend on, agrees. Remind me never to trust dictionary.com, because they're wrong--and that's distressing!
Scott Pendleton (tuanscott) says:
Gerbils must be nothing like rats, because it's quite easy to tell if they're male or not.
Melissa Trible (tamtrible) says:
Yeah, I was going to say: male mice and rats have *huge* equipment, at least relative to their wee little bodies.
Leon Arnott (l) says:
Wednesday's Comic: Is that thick grey beam the projectile... or the nozzle? Either way, it's a wonder she can even carry the darned thing. I suppose that some kind of dessert stomach logic ensures that no firearm is too heavy for Mell's arms. Poor, poor Mell. She really belongs in a zany college roommates webcomic where she can terminate Xenomorphs and zombie clones of herself all day long, while her fellow foils plead with the Author's avatar for assistance, only to have two other webcomics' casts and their cute animal mascots cross over into their apartments for a few weeks and eat all of their grumblecakes. Instead, all she gets to do here is pull the main cast out of its own abominable mess about once a month. Also: only four weeks? Wednesday's Song: Is actually the only one so far that I have ever heard performed. Don't pity me. I am already dead.
Noah Singman (nsingman) says:
That's such a sweet story! Um, "that" refers to you and Andrew, of course. As an aside, my beauteous and oft-praised Jungle Goddess and I will be flying into SF on August 17th, and driving south on the 21st. We'd love to see you again, and meet Andrew, too!
Dave III (dave_iii) says:
I agree with Noah, that's a great story. Good comic material, too, I should think. ^_^
David Harmon (mental_mouse) says:
Note how Andrew's persistence foils the forces of Chaos!. I imagine a quick walk around the hotel might have helped too -- IF he'd avoided the wandering spirits of deceased comedy teams.....
David Harmon (mental_mouse) says:
Scott & Melissa: Gerbils and hamsters just look anonymously fuzzy back there. On the other hand, if you want "huge equipment... relative to their wee little bodies"... check out turtles! Long enough to get past both shells, means up to half the size of their shell, and they're liable to show it when you pick them up. Can't dig up the link offhand, but there was something on ScienceBlogs.
Ed Gedeon (eddurd) says:
"The turtle lives 'twixt plated decks / Which practically conceals its sex. / I think it clever of the turtle / In such a fix to be so fertile." -- Ogden Nash I must admit, Shaenon, your first date beats mine with my wife (dinner at Cracker Barrel next to the Interstate). Yet, somehow, we've lasted for nearly seven years now.
Shaenon Garrity (shaenongarrity) says:
Noah: Of course! Email me!
On animal genitalia: During mating season, some species of ducks grow tubular penises longer than their ENTIRE BODIES. It's crazy; most birds don't have penises at all (just a unisex organ called the cloaca), so it's like waterfowl have to make up for everybody else. Ah, the penises of the animal kingdom. This is one of those topics of conversation that make me such a hit at social gatherings. Who doesn't want to spend dinner hearing about how female hyenas give birth through their false phalli?
Chris Gleason (bkitu42) says:
NOAH! Are you and JG still heading south through the Santa Barbara area on your trip? Let us know! Chris "BKITU" Gleason
Rachel S. (masamage) says:
That is definitely the best looking gun yet. And I agree, the rant is awesome. Also, awww at your story. That makes me extremely happy. And yay at Ernie! And yay at your anatomical knowledge. X) Basically, it's a really, really good day to be a Narbonic fan.
Lenore Hoyt (lkhoyt) says:
Apparently the damage to a first-time mother hyena is pretty gnarly, and a lot of them don't live through their first litter, but after that it's a lot easier. Has to do with a large concentration of male hormones the females are exposed to in utero. Cool stuff.
James Rice (jhrice) says:
I've always especially liked this strip. I feel a strong kinship with Dave here, because I too have a strong lack-of work ethic.
Leon Arnott (l) says:
Thursday's Comic: I suppose "once again" refers to the deceased Doomsday Machine? Had Dave completed that infernal device, this webcomic would have concluded a lot sooner. Let it be known that in the Narboniverse, slackers are naturally selected! I find it amusing, even in that vein, that the only things Dave and Helen feel the need to do at this point are standing around and grinning glibly.
David Harmon (mental_mouse) says:
I like the way you show the megaphone's currently-useless handle sticking up.
Ed Gedeon (eddurd) says:
Not to be nit-picky, but is Dave smoking or chewing on a toothpick? I assume he's smoking, but that's an awfully teeny-tiny cigarette ... maybe it's a Virginia Slim?
Chab Guthrie (chab) says:
Perhaps "it goes without saying" --like the vehicle in Dictionopolis-- {or it has up until now}, but "ONCE AGAIN MY LACK OF WORK ETHIC HAS SAVED LIVES" is one of the truly great Narbonic observations/aphorisms {an aphorism if slightly rephrased}.
Rachel S. (masamage) says:
Chab is right! That would make a wonderful T-shirt.
Mee R. (mee) says:
I will find a way to exploit your love of 90s gangsta rap. Mark my words!
Edwin Quantrall (reynard) says:
The gerbil is standing on a copy of Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH, one of my favorite novels about superintelligent rodents. I know there's a lot of stiff competition there. Ah, yes! The source material of my absolute favorite animated movie, The Secret of NIMH! They just don't make (or write) 'em like that anymore... So sad...so sad...
Cameron Nielsen (cameroncn) says:
Suddenly I have an urge to go draw Madblood in a flying saucer...maybe tomorrow...
Leon Arnott (l) says:
Friday's Comic looks noticably crisper and clearer than previous episodes. A case of technological advancement over the years, or merely a spot of luck?
Three-panel gags? Hard? Well, I never. Now I know what I've been doing wrong all these years. Thanks! Unwanted Corrections: Somehow, a quarter strikes me as a little mundane for a secondary punch-line. And yet the only replacement line that I can think up in short notice is "I've struck gum!", which, despite calling to mind a certain episode of The Goodies, isn't much of an improvement. Everybody loses! Y'know, I sometimes fantasise about a Narbonic feature film trilogy spanning the entire run. Yes, just a trilogy. This particular intellectual tangent forces one to attempt to pare down the Narbonic story to its most important events. Could you, for example, successfully portray the "Everlasting Ices/Madness" arc without the hamsters and their backstory? How important is the "Dr. Narbon, Dave's Dead, D-Con" and "Island" string of arcs? Which of the Madblood arcs prior to "Everlasting Ices" should be retained? Such questions haunt those who pursue fantasy scenarios without thinking through the plausibility of their conditions first.
ribbles (ribbles) says:
Jeez, Leon, you'd really have to pare it down. Maybe it would be better to have a one-hour weekly show and try to cover a story line each season. Has anyone reading ever tried to write out a Narbonic storyline in Final Draft? What does it end up looking like?
Ed Gedeon (eddurd) says:
I too dream of Narbonic TV/movie adaptations. I see it done as a series of animated films, each covering one or two storylines (depending on length). As for the voices ... Caroline Rhea as Helen, Charlie Sheen as Dave, Grey DeLisle as Mell, David Hyde Pierce as Madblood, Doris Roberts as Dr. Narbon, Julia-Louis Dreyfuss as Zeta, and Dr. Stephen Hawking as Foot. Whadday think, huh?
David Harmon (mental_mouse) says:
Blast you Sarge, now you've given me the mindworm! ;-) I don't know that you could cut entire storylines, but if you had to, I'd ditch "Diamond Mines of Brazil", folding Artie's upgrade and Mel's revelation into the Dave Conspiracy line. (Perhaps relocate the fight to the end of D-con?) Some of the arcs could be abbreviated, or visually compressed -- for example,Dave's trip through Hell, or the travails of his zombified head. Likewise, a lot of the demon / angel stuff could be done much more briskly onscreen. It's amazing how many sight gags you can cram into the background of a running fight...
maggie d (sophistre) says:
'Dr. Stephen Hawking as Foot.'
I giggled.
James Rice (jhrice) says:
I can't help but think of Tress MacNeille doing one of her old crone voices for the voice Dr. Narbon.
Edwin Quantrall (reynard) says:
As for the voices ... Caroline Rhea as Helen, Charlie Sheen as Dave, Grey DeLisle as Mell, David Hyde Pierce as Madblood, Doris Roberts as Dr. Narbon, Julia-Louis Dreyfuss as Zeta, and Dr. Stephen Hawking as Foot. Whadday think, huh? Okaaaaay... But who plays Artie? I'd like to suggest/nominate either Shemar Moore of Criminal Minds or Coby Bell of Third Watch.
John Wells (johnwwells) says:
I suspect that the writers of a Narbonic TV show would be badly tempted to show madness "from the inside" at some point, and of course it would end up being ridiculously and predictably dark. Maybe one of the final scenes would go like this... As Dave sits placidly on the floor, fiber optic cables dangling from his nostrils, the scenery warps, and we're back in Slumberland. Two Little Daves wander the corridors, arguing fiercely. Innocent Dave wants a reconciliation; Angry Dave wants to show them all. They begin to fight, and, for a moment, Innocent Dave seems to have the upper hand. "I won't let you hurt her!" he says. Then the dream Daves look up, and see that they are, somehow, in Madblood's lair. Holographic Dave rises from the floor and regards them quietly. "Hello, Davey," he says, smiling horribly. Fade to black. (Also Artie dies a noble death, Mell and Caliban settle down to a quiet bourgeois existence, and Helen, depressingly, turns out to not be so bad after all.)
James Rice (jhrice) says:
If there were a Wizard Price Guide for webcomics, this strip would be highlighted in pink and labeled SGa 1: Dr. Narbon. And it would be priced at 300 million dollars, slabbed, because it would be HOT!!! I believe this is the earliest original Narbonic strip I own. (Currently for sale, asking price, $300 million, but with a 25% discount through the end of Comicon). I won it in the Spot The Non-Dave Contest, but it wasn't the strip I asked for, (that one will show up in a few days). This strip arrived by mistake, but rather than send it back, I kept it, and told Shaenon that sooner or later, I would get the correct strip from her. I think it took a year, and I don't remember how I got it, but I did. The are both hanging in my lab now, along with a few other Narbonic strips.
Kristy Valenti (alienjukebox) says:
If you're talking about songs about just plain evil, "I Wish I had an Evil Twin" by the Magnetic Fields is pretty good.
Bo Lindbergh (blgl) says:
What narration boxes? Those are internal monologue boxes.
Leon Arnott (l) says:
Saturday's Comic: Y'know, I was wondering what was going on when "1 Down: Smells like victory. (16 letters)" turned up in a recent crossword. And yet there it is in panel 4. Thanks, six-year old webcomics, for solving my trivial and possibly fictionalised problems! Now for an issue of contention! In strip number 00002, the laboratory is referred to as "Narbonics Research". In all other instances since then, it is referred to as "Narbonics Labs". What's up with that? (Also, it is unclear whether or not the sign in today's episode sees the gerbil head logo in strip 00002 replaced with the recognisable pink heart. Maybe it is an inverted triangle logo that forms the missing link between them?) Today's Lesson Learned: If you want to draw looming shadows, perhaps turning a pencil on its side isn't quite the best way to shade them?
Leon Arnott (l) says:
"How do we know it's Mom? I'm thinking it's Helen's evil twin sister Helga (explains "Beta"). Don't I recall something about Mom getting bumped back in the flashback sequence? Hmm. Wait a sec. Helen is evil herself. Would this make her the Good Twin Sister Helga? Or the Eviller twin? Or the Evil-but-in-a-different-way? Ow. My brain just jumped out of my skull and ran off down the hall. I hate it when that happens." --Stephen Boyd, 21 Feb. 2001.
Leon Arnott (l) says:
Today's Lateral Thinking Puzzle: A superintelligent gerbil is on a highway median strip, and sees a middle-aged woman. At that instant, an unseen audience knows that a distant universe has been destroyed. How come?
Ed Gedeon (eddurd) says:
Drat, I knew I forgot someone ... Artie would be voiced by Michael Dorn. (In a cameo, Wanda Sykes would be the worker at the bus company Lost & Found.) To John Wells: In *my* universe, Narbonic TV/movies do not get made until the original author gives final script approval. Sarge, if I ever win the lottery, I promise you this will be done. Your creations shall come to life! LIFE, I say! Ha ha! (Excuse me ...*ahem*ahem*) BWAHAHAhahahaha*cough*cough* drat I need more practice...
Bryce Utting (butting) says:
...I wanna be purely evil Well, yeah, but "This is the end (KABOOM!!!)/beautiful friend" would fit quite nicely too. Or is that for further down the road?
Dave III (dave_iii) says:
I always imagined Artie being a somewhat more even toned voice... maybe Phil LaMarr being not quite so over the top as Samurai Jack. Michael Dorn is perfect if you want to imply an imposing physical presence, but Artie has an intimidating intellectual presence.
David Harmon (mental_mouse) says:
Leon: (Also, it is unclear whether or not the sign in today's episode sees the gerbil head logo in strip 00002 replaced with the recognisable pink heart. Maybe it is an inverted triangle logo that forms the missing link between them?) Well, the prior lair got trashed, and Helen might have wanted the Labs to be a little less recognizable! Thus, a new logo sans gerbil. The elevator behind Artie is marked with a down arrow.
Andy Holloway (garran) says:
Except for human Artie, who would of course be voiced by Ted Koppel.
Ed Gedeon (eddurd) says:
Oh, drat, how could I have forgotten ... and of course, Patrick Stewart for ANTONIO SMITH, FORENSIC LINGUIST! As for the sign, I think Leon was referring to the heart/triangle on the sign that reads "Narbonic Labs" (directly above the 'o' in "Narbonic"). Looks like a heart to me, but that may just be a bias caused by my Lucky Charms addiction.
John Wells (johnwwells) says:
I think it's a tiny triangular gerbil head.
Ed Gedeon (eddurd) says:
Much-belated Big Freakin' (tm) Gun count: 4 (Wednesday's comic) To this day, Mell's line is one of my favorites in the entire archive.
BlackWolfe Coyoten (blackwolfe_coyoten) says:
I just thought, on the subject of science- and mad-science-related music (and previous mention of JoCo), would "Betty and Me" count, even though the "improved" baby is improved via eugenics and not the gene-splicing the narrator/singer suspects?
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